Chuck, just checked where I keep things I download and PSE 3 and 5 and don't have it anywhere but in CS3. I also have something there called Magic and I don't know what it is. Like I told Suzi in her other thread, most of my plug-ins from PSE5 loaded automatically when I installed CS3. Weird. The only thing I have added in CS3 are some actions and the Buzz Pro2.